Kknd

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:50 pm

I did everything you wrote Mr. dosraider and installed my kknd with the help of this DOSBox and everything seems to be fine but I can't run the game. When it had finished installing the game, my DOSBox said: "Type KKND to play the game
Changing to <<C>>"
I type KKND and it says illegal command

Post by **dosraider** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:11 pm

http://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11834

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:20 pm

Ok, I tried "cd kknd" and it says "unable to change to: kknd."
I think I did ok the thing with the mounting and managed to install the game. However, the thing which confuses me is that in my directory where my DOSbox installed the game, there are only 2 kknd files with the size of 38 and 338 bytes (maybe this is irrelevant but nvm). Could it be that it didnt install the game as it should? What should I try?

Post by **dosraider** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:43 pm

The Undertaker wrote: I think I did ok the thing with the mounting and managed to install the game. However, the thing which confuses me is that in my directory where my DOSbox installed the game, there are only 2 kknd files with the size of 38 and 338 bytes (maybe this is irrelevant but nvm). Could it be that it didnt install the game as it should? What should I try?

[Echo mode]

dosraider wrote:........blablabla
If not: you screwed up.
Where?
Impossible to tell you without detailled info.

OS?
All your mount lines.
All you did t'll now, exactly, all your inputs and so on and so on.....

[/Echo mode]
Can you read?

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:14 pm

Ok, from the very beginning:
-I created the folder "games" in my C: partition as instructed
-Running DOSBox.... Z:\>mount c c:games
Drive C is mounted as local directory c:\games\
-Z:\>mount d h:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl
MSCDEX installed.
Drive D is mounted as CDRom h:\
-Z:\>D:
-D:\>install
-.......Asking me if I wish to use UniVBE as my VESA driver, I press N
-After a short period of waiting during which DSBox displayed nothing but black screen, I got: Type KKND to play the game
Changing to <<C>>
-C:\>cd kknd
Unable to change to: kknd.
-C:\>Beyond my skills

This was exactly how I did it. I am very sorry if I'm getting on your nerves. Many thanks.

MiniMax · Post by **MiniMax** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:38 pm

It looked okay what you did there Undertaker. You shouldn't need the -usecd 0 and the -ioctl options when mounting the CD, but I don't think it matters. But try without them.

Also, you should set gus=false in your dosbox.conf, so the installer will pick the SoundBlaster device instead.

That you only get a black screen during the installation is rather worrisome. It should ask you about a few things, like where to install the files, which sound device to use, etc.

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:59 pm

I tried withouth the -usecd 0 and -ioctl options and it worked the same without causing any problems. I've also set that "gus=false" in the dosbox.conf.. And I still get that black screen. It doesn't ask me absolutely anything except the thing with that driver in the beginning and either replying "yes" or "no" the result is the same..

Post by **dosraider** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:10 pm

You didn't get on my nerves, Undertaker, lolz.

But you also didn't answer one rather important question:
OS?
If you're on Vista try that cd mount line:
mount d h:\ -t cdrom -noioctl
I had some troubles on Vista lately, dosbox mounts now by default CDs with -ioctl, some OEM Vistas didn't seem to like that ......
Also if you're on Vista follow and apply this dosbox howto:
http://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437

I do agree with MiniMax that the black screen is not good, not good at all even.
Do you have the original CD or a copy?
If you burned the CD from an ISO, did you burned using the image file itself?

Is your dosbox install a default one? Meaning: did you alter anything?

questions questions.... detail details....

The Undertaker wrote: C:\>cd kknd
Unable to change to: kknd.

Getting this after the install is a bad thing. Something went completely wrong, the KKND folder is the first thing the install program should have created.
Take a look whilst in Windows what's created -IF created- in c:\games.

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:05 am

I'm glad I'm not getting on your nerves...yet. lol
Sorry I didnt answer your question. I didn't get the abbreviation in the first place.. I'm not using Vista, but XP.
Now..I hope my copy of KKND isn't a problem. It's not an original, it's actually a downloaded copy from the Internet. I have it as an image mounted on Daemon Tools.
As for the dosbox, I didn't alter anything after the installation. I installed it normally accepting everything in the setup (as instructed).
So you said KKND folder should have been created..Well, as I told you, it doesn't create anything except 2 files (some MEM file and Microsoft Office Outlook Configuration file). So it definetly didn't install the game as it should have and I certainly hope my KKND image is not a reason for this 'cause I can't think of the other way of getting KKND.

MiniMax · Post by **MiniMax** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:25 am

I bought my copy of KKND just a few weeks ago at a local game shop. And I see plenty of them at eBay.

For the record, this is what my CD (well, it is actually an image) contains when viewed from inside DOSBox:

Code: Select all

Directory of D&#58;\.
.              <DIR>            17-02-1997 14&#58;38
..             <DIR>            17-02-1997 14&#58;38
AUTORUN  INF                 46 01-02-1997 13&#58;54
DETAL    EXE             26,624 18-11-1996 14&#58;51
HMIDET   386             83,774 09-03-1995 10&#58;43
HMIDRV   386            317,317 09-03-1995 10&#58;42
INSTALL  EXE          1,224,429 26-11-1996 21&#58;58
INSTALL  ICO                766 15-11-1996  1&#58;00
INSTALL  PIF                967 19-11-1996 18&#58;12
KKND           <DIR>            17-02-1997 14&#58;38
README   TXT              6,980 04-02-1997  8&#58;57
UVCONFIG EXE            269,682 19-08-1996 17&#58;44
    9 File&#40;s&#41;         1,930,585 Bytes.
    3 Dir&#40;s&#41;                  0 Bytes free.

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:29 am

Finally! I got it to work. The problem was that my cd wasnt actually in the drive even though computer thought it was and that's why it didnt install the game properly. Now I only need to adjust the sound and it should work. If any other problem occurs I'll let you guys know, so stay awake

.
Only joking. Thanks again for everything, I wouldn't know what to do without you guys. Best regards!
-Undertaker

Post by **dosraider** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:23 am

*Sound of gunshots*
So, things are cleared up, Larry the DGF hitbot has taken care of The Undertaker.

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:12 am

Yes, he has

Regrettably, there's one minor problem. My dosbox can't remember that I installed the game and always runs the installation process again.
I changed some lines in dosbox config but to no avail. Here's how it looks in the config:
[sdl]
# Using an output method like 'overlay' that supports hardware scaling to
# a window twice the resolution (1280x960) works nicely for me.

output=overlay
windowresolution=1280x960

[gus]=false
# The auto-detection in the installer defaults to the Gravis
# Ultrasound (GUS) device if present. But since GUS has not been
# tested as throughly as SoundBlaster, I disable it here and the
# autodetection will choose SoundBlaster instead.

gus=false

[ipx]
# KKND supports multi-player mode using direct serial, modem or IPX.
# DOSBox comes with a built-in IPX server, that tunnels IPX packets
# over UDP/IP on port 213.

ipx=true

[autoexec]
mount c c:\games
@ echo off

rem +---------------------------------------------------------------
rem ! Mount the CD-drive and virtual harddisk.
rem +---------------------------------------------------------------

mount C "C-drive"
mount D "h:\" -t cdrom
echo.

rem +---------------------------------------------------------------
rem ! Are we ready to run the software, or do we need to install it
rem ! first?
rem +---------------------------------------------------------------

if exist C:\games\KKND\KKND.Exe goto Ready

:Install

rem +---------------------------------------------------------------
rem ! Install the software from the CD-drive using the supplied
rem ! installer. The installer will also invoke the setup utility.
rem +---------------------------------------------------------------

if exist D:\Install.Exe goto L10

echo ERROR: There is something horribly wrong with the MOUNT
echo. commands used in your dosbox.conf file. There is
echo. no INSTALL.EXE on the mounted D-drive.
goto Done

:L10
D:
cd \
echo Installing KKND.
echo.
echo OBS: There is no need to use the UniVBE VESA driver that
echo. the installer offers to you. Just say No.
echo.

Install
echo.

if exist C:\KKND\KKND.Exe goto Ready

echo ERROR: There is something horribly wrong with the MOUNT
echo. commands used in your dosbox.conf file. There is
echo. no KKND.EXE on the mounted C-drive.
goto Done

:Ready

rem +---------------------------------------------------------------
rem ! Switch to the harddisk, and inform the user about which
rem ! command to use for running the software.
rem +---------------------------------------------------------------

C:
cd \KKND

echo Type KKND to start the game.
echo Type D:\INSTALL to reinstall or reconfigure the game.

goto Done

:Done
echo.

Post by **dosraider** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:58 am

@MiniMax: When I post in a help topic on Abandonia or LTF -(or others)- I adapt my mount lines to those usually used on those sites, I don't bring my own ones in.
I would appreciate if you would do the same here.
It will avoid this kind of confusion.

Would you please adapt yours?
THX.

And get rid of that '@echo off', that way dosbox beginners would be able to see when they get a 'drive C is already mounted as blablablabla....

http://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11834

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:34 am

Hmm... I deleted ALL under [autoexec] and left only mount c c:\games
mount d h:\ -t cdrom
c:
Then I reinstalled it by running the dosbox and typing mount c c:\games, then mount
d h:\ -t cdrom
Follows d:install

After the instalation was complete, I ran the game typing cd kknd, kknd and it worked ok. Now what happens is when I exit and try running kknd from "Run", I get an error message (with many lines, last one sth like "crash adress (unrelocated).

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:57 am

I appologise but I forgot to add that the game actually works when I run it with dosbox (not Run) although I have to mount the drives again every time.

Post by **dosraider** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:15 am

dosraider wrote: [autoexec]
mount c c:\games
mount d h:\ -t cdrom
c:

If you have this under [autoexec] it's needless to retype it on the prompt.
If you didn't make any typos your dosbox must run with a C:\ prompt ready, if not you've screwed up somewhere. Check all twice or trice t'll you find where you went wrong.
And pay attention to the dosbox screen whilst starting up.
Read and apply this as you're on XP.:
http://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5443

That's how you run your game after it's installed:

dosraider wrote: To run your game:

cd kknd
kknd

NOT with the run command, don't run dosgames that way, even if some do.

The Undertaker · Post by **The Undertaker** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:08 pm

Yup, I made the final necessary adjustments and it all works now without any problems. Thanks for having enough patience to help me. Cheers!

Post by **dosraider** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:39 pm

You're welcome.
Enjoy it.

Now, if only Larry the hitbot could do his job..... before you get in problems with another game.

GriM_SlaYer · Post by **GriM_SlaYer** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:56 pm

hey i need a little help not much for some reason it is not loading the CD info it is mounted and everything but it is a image i downloaded it is installed and loads the game fine but only multilayer is available so it is not detecting the CD I'm guessing here is my

[autoexec]

mount c c:\games
mount d h:\ -t cdrom
c:\kknd
kknd