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I know why they won't let you emmzee (wolf3d) par:2

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:20 pm
by Bobo
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 9:13 am
by 486 player
Episodes 2 to 6 are registered only. But I don't think emm putted it tobe downloaded.

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 9:21 am
by John The Ax
"Distribution is "non-commercial" when for free, or by any not-for-
profit corporation or tax exempt organization, or by hobby, user or
computer interest group to its members, or by any BBS."

What they say in this is how you can legally SELL is, it's legal to share it for free through electronic media, like BBS's, but you can't sell it over a BBS, you have to make exact copies from a master disk.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 5:16 pm
by emmzee
Yea, that kind of "can't sell it" crapola is one reason why the DOSGAMES.com CD will never happen. (Another reason is that I don't have the time/effort/skill/etc to do it. ;))

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 12:29 pm
by Amro
But the money is for the putting together of the CD and any manager software on it (like jorrit's)

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:33 am
by Nobody Specal
soooooo

skip all that does that mean i can get spear of destiny for free Legaly
as long as i don't sell it?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:47 am
by Thunderdog
The only reasons I figured it was illigal to download was

1. ID still sells it on their site

2. The only places I see it for download are on A-ware/Warez sites.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:49 am
by Nobody Specal
so i cant get it legaly

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 9:02 am
by John The Ax
Buy it from ID Software.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:52 pm
by Da_Goat
Technically, if you see it on an abandonware site, that site is oldwarez, since ID's still selling it.

Anyway, even abandonware's illegal. Just buy the darn thing.

There's a freeware game at Game Hippo called "Spear Ressurection", though, that's a fanmade sequel to "Spear of Destiny". It's pretty good, too, if you can get past the first level. The first level sucks.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:01 pm
by Nobody Specal
my friend told me that i can get the two games (wolf3d & s.o.d.) for $10 aus plus more content or something
I live in australia and exchange rates are bad so it would cost me too much